28 – Suicide Squad Comic-Con Trailer

coverblackOverview and character analysis of the Suicide Squad Comic-Con Trailer, then a listener mailbag.

Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • Character shots and line metrics
  • Diablo as a canvas
  • Flagg’s longer hair
  • Cara Delevingne
  • Joker and Waller
  • The appeal of villains
  • Can Batman forgive?
  • Kingdom Come
  • Affleck and Johns writing Batman

…and more.

Suicide Squad Comic-Con Trailer | 232 MB warning!
Internet Response to Suicide Squad Trailer | Brandwatch
Interview Special Dan Jurgens | We Talk Comics
The Death of “Superman Lives”; What Happened? | Jon Schnepp
Justice League: Gods and Monsters | Sam Liu
September 2015 – Batman v. Superman | Empire
/r/DC_Cinematic | DCCU on Reddit
“I Started a Joke” by the Bee Gees Cover | Nataly Dawn & Lauren O’Connell

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  1. Batman also has a big part in the Suicide Squad because in the Empire Magazine article that covers Batman v Superman they mentioned that Batman is responsible for putting most of the members of the Suicide Squad in jail.

  2. Thanks for the shout-out, Doc!

    And thanks for the analysis here. One thing I like about this is that it looks like an R-rated movie, even if it doesn’t end up being rated R. I’m still on the fence about whether I’d prefer it to really be rated R or not. I think the material suits an R, and I think it’d be a gutsy put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is move on WB’s part after saying how DC movies are more serious and realistic, but I have a hard time believing they’d have Batman in an R-rated movie.

    That said, I thought “Assault on Arkham” was a pretty hard PG-13 and it really didn’t feel like it was pulling any punches (although I think they allow more blood in animation than they ever would in live-action). Also, I wouldn’t want them to do an R-rated movie for the sake of being R-rated. I feel like I’ve seen plenty of recent R’s where they kind of say “Well, we’re already getting an R so we might as well make it a hard R” and quite frankly, I don’t think the material here suits that.

    Loved your point about how Leto’s Joker feels less like he’s wearing a mask than previous versions and how that makes him feel less distant and thus more dangerous, creepy and scary. I hadn’t put my finger on that while watching it, but that’s completely what’s making him so unsettling. Watching this I feel like the look and the performances are there, so I just hope the material lives up to it. Still, the interest this generated was a real pleasant surprise, so this could really be a wild card when it comes out. I’ve been sort of expecting this to have a more niche release like Kick-Ass or X-Men First Class, but it seems like it might do much better than that. We’ll see in a year!

    • I think the only thing going against it being PG-13 is that David Ayer has yet to direct a movie that wasn’t rated R; he has written and produced movies that have been PG-13 but every movie he has directed been R.

    • I personally think Warner Brothers will want to make this movie pass with a PG-13 (even though it could easily be rated R).

      I this day and age it seems it’s pretty easy to film scenes differently two different ways to have two possible movie ratings. If they keep the movie with “bloodless violence” then it just might pass with a PG-13.

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