53 – Wonder Woman

coverblackRecorded June 9th. “Worth cherishing in every way.”  Reacting to Wonder Woman and answering some in-story questions.

[Regarding this episode… “Eh, it’s not for everyone.”]

Answers, insights, and commentary on:

  • I. Logos (22min)
    • What if a child…?
    • Cherishing in every way
    • Mythos and Logos
    • Ethos, Logos, and Pathos
    • Accessibility
    • Jenkins’s Emotional Lens
  • II. Bedtime Story (6min)
    • Confounding Clouds
    • Diana’s Bedtime Story Framework
  • III. Questions (70min)
    • How old is Diana?
    • Can Diana return to Themyscira?
    • Why didn’t they tell Diana the truth?
    • Why didn’t they go with Diana?
    • Did she want to leave earlier?
    • When did Diana develop powers?
    • Why did Ares reveal himself?
    • How does the lasso work?
    • How did Ares defeat the Olympians?
    • Why didn’t Ares destroy mankind sooner?
    • What does Ares want?
    • What is love?
    • Is Ares the source of mankind’s corruption?
    • Does seeing Ares change Diana’s belief?
    • Does Diana love Ares? Why kill him?
    • Why doesn’t Diana reveal herself after World War I?
    • Did Diana walk away from mankind?
    • What did Diana do for 100 years?
    • What moves Diana to act?
    • Why does Diana fight Doomsday?
    • Why doesn’t she have the same powers in that fight?
    • Why does Diana finally go public?
  • IV. End Notes (35min)
    • Is Ares dead?
    • Why doesn’t Steve do something different with the plane?

To learn more:
Wonder Woman: The Art and Making of | Sharon Gosling
Wonder Woman Novelization | Nancy Holder
From Poly to Mono, Mythos to Logos | Evan Puschak
103 Desirability Bias | You Are Not So Smart
Five Ages of Man | Wikipedia
8 Types of Love Ancient Greeks | Mateo Sol
Color Wheel Theory of Love | Wikipedia
Reality Part One | Invisibilia
Treehouse of Horror X | The Simpsons
772 Small Change | Planet Money
How to Use Rhetoric | Camille Langston
Strike Me Down | Return of the Jedi (1983)
True From A Certain Point of View | Robot Chicken
A Better Way To Talk About Love | Mandy Len Catron
Constitutional Peasants | Monty Python
The Princess Bride | Rob Reiner

End notes recorded June 23rd
Canterbury Tales | pronuntiatio
Fæder Ure | Hrothgar Simonus
The Wisdom Series | Bible Project
Raise Brave Girls, Encourage Adventure | Caroline Paul
Teach Girls Bravery, Not Perfection | Reshma Saujani
Professor Robert Sapolsky on Altruism | Big Think
Philosophy of Stoicism | TED Ed
Why I Broke Up With The Little Mermaid | Jesse Eisenberg
Storybook Love Cover | 24getful1

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“I Walked Away From Mankind” Explained

Thesis

Diana is not saying, “I rejected humanity and condemn them for their division.”
She’s saying, “I spared them my divinity because it doesn’t work with their division.”

Defining The Controversy

I continue to see confusion about the sequence of events and statements, so to make it explicitly clear: Diana defeats Ares, then [by her own timeline] she walks away from mankind, she fights Doomsday, and she tells Bruce she walked away, Bruce sends her the original photo, and it is then that Wonder Woman says, “So I stay, I fight, and I give for the world I know can be.  This is my mission now.  Forever.”  Before leaping into the light in our time.

We have no explicit indication that she has been doing this between defeating Ares and defeating Doomsday other than her statement that she’s killed “things”- plural- from other “worlds”- again plural- before.  So Diana’s last lines in Wonder Woman come after Dawn of Justice and are not in contradiction with BvS.  Anything based on the last lines is a comprehension error and not a contradiction.

However, contradiction can still be alleged based on the explicit statement that Diana believes in love… and the general idea or attitude that she is an irrepressible activist.

Concisely, “If you love, you can’t walk away.” and/or “Heroes can’t walk away.”

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